On this episode of Pretty Messed Up, AJ McLean, Cheryl Burke, and Rene Elizondo welcome AJ’s wife Rochelle onto the podcast to talk about what it’s like to love an addict for eleven years, what she thinks is different this time, explain the flaming jean jacket story, and who of the Backstreet Boys she would kiss, marry, and kill. But first, they give us a peek behind the camera of Dancing with the Stars, from the out-of-order editing to the scoring process, and have a profound conversation about actor and Armchair Expert host Dax Shepard recently revealing his relapse. Rene understands how Dax must be feeling, because he relapsed after 14 years of sobriety, and was a mentor and sponsor to so many other people; “You have to walk through a lot of shame that you put on yourself,” he says.

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